Helping open a climbing gym with brand new holds quickly wore away a single spot on the toes, but I am still able to get on some v5's and 6's without too much stress. Great shoes, even when you see it's first hole, and honestly the first climbing shoe that fits my heel. I would say this shoe is great for intermediate to advance, be ready to break in the shoe, but when it happens, aghh it's great.
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