The overall shoe is just *okay* for me, but the way the tongue gets sucked back into the shoe just seconds after putting it on, is just awful. No matter what I did, I couldn't get the tongue to stay in place. I did some research and I know that others have this same issue, but it doesn't seem to be an issue for everyone. I don't know what causes it to be better for others. I've tried everything I could think of to help with the issue to no avail, but honestly - I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a shoe to act like a normal shoe. I will say that I've tried the Pro4 and absolutely love them. The tongue thing is no longer an issue and the shoes are amazing.
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