Honestly, I was disappointed in these gloves. I used them once while on a military exercise and had to switch them out for my leather, insulated pair. Despite their rating, I found that they weren't made for keeping hands warm at all, even if it was only -5 C. I just don't mess around when it's winter in Canada. Perhaps when you're constantly active they're better, but there are times when we're waiting around outside or more static. I also found the orange wrist leash annoying, but at least it's removeable.
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