The description "excellent stretch" is quite misleading... these barely have any stretch. It is almost an extreme sport to get them on! That said, once they are on, they stay put, but I have to inch my way into them since there isn't a stretch. I am a typical size 8 (american sizing); I ordered a 10, since Arc'Teryx typically runs "small" for me. I just barely fit into the 10, but have managed to make them work.
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